Sighting 4651606
Thynnid Flower Wasps at suppressed
Identification history
| Thynnidae Family | 9 Mar 2025 | DiBickers | ||
| Laeviscolia frontalis | 8 Mar 2025 | MatthewFrawley |
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Only found because my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel was fighting with it, couldn't take off, only fly at ground level
12 comments
DiBickers
wrote:
8 Mar 2025
@MatthewFrawley this is lacking the yellow around the head (female) & yellow on the sides of thorax (male) that Laeviscolia frontalis has. I was going to suggest Australelis anthracina, but the head, eyes, thorax, legs, wings are different (in addition to those white spurs on the hind legs). Not sure what this one is😩It does have a lot of similarities to Anthoboscinae sp. but there are very minimal photos available online….
MatthewFrawley
wrote:
8 Mar 2025
Thanks for taking a look @DiBickers, my suggestion of Laeviscolia frontalis was just a guess from looking at other sightings here on NatureMapr.
DiBickers
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
@MatthewFrawley happy to help😊I think I need to sift through Laeviscolia frontalis and swap some over as well (I’ve already done some of them but didn’t want to join NM and then change too many things in my first couple of weeks)💚
DiBickers
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
@AaronClausen as an amateur working on a major platform like NatureMapr it is really testing my confidence to say or do things. I’m so used to assisting in multiple entomology Facebook groups where you can suggest something and then they upload their observations to somewhere like NatureMapr or iNaturalist to get an actual entomologist to verify something. Soooo, I’m trying (& just hoping what I’m doing is helpful in some way), but always keen to learn more💚
DiBickers
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
@simonc morning😊I just wanted to Tag you into this one because it looks like we’ve got a third candidate with yellow spots on the abdomen.
This is lacking the yellow around the head (female) & yellow on the sides of thorax (male) that Laeviscolia frontalis has. I was going to suggest Australelis anthracina, but the head, eyes, thorax, legs, wings are different (in addition to those white spurs on the hind legs). Not sure what this one is😩
It does have a lot of similarities to Anthoboscinae sp. but there are very minimal photos available online….
PS. I’ve also separated the obs in Laeviscolia frontalis into Australelis anthracina (or Unidentified Scollidae if the head/thorax aren’t clear) & updated the description & amended the sample photos in each to make it easier for people uploading photos to understand/see the distinction between them💚
This is lacking the yellow around the head (female) & yellow on the sides of thorax (male) that Laeviscolia frontalis has. I was going to suggest Australelis anthracina, but the head, eyes, thorax, legs, wings are different (in addition to those white spurs on the hind legs). Not sure what this one is😩
It does have a lot of similarities to Anthoboscinae sp. but there are very minimal photos available online….
PS. I’ve also separated the obs in Laeviscolia frontalis into Australelis anthracina (or Unidentified Scollidae if the head/thorax aren’t clear) & updated the description & amended the sample photos in each to make it easier for people uploading photos to understand/see the distinction between them💚
AaronClausen
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
@DiBickers you are doing an incredible job! I'm thoroughly enjoying reading all of your analysis and helpful commentary! Thanks so much for all your efforts and the important contributions 🙏
MatthewFrawley
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
I echo Aaron's comment, thanks @DiBickers. It was exciting to find this wasp and now exciting to learn so much from all your comments.
DiBickers
wrote:
9 Mar 2025
@MatthewFrawley💚I’ve merely relayed key identifiers which I’ve learned from others and am happy to share so we can all learn together😊😊
Sighting information
- 1 Abundance
- MatthewFrawley Recorded by
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Collections
72 Araluen Road MatthewFrawley NatureMapr Canberra & Southern Tablelands Latest Flower wasps (Scoliidae & Tiphiidae) Wasps (Hymenoptera, Apocrita) Insects
Additional information
- 12mm to 25mm Animal size
- Unknown Gender
- Injured / sick Animal health
Species information
- Thynnidae Family Scientific name
- Thynnid Flower Wasps Common name
- Unknown
- Unknown
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Machine learning
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- Images or audio
- More than one media file
- Verified by an expert moderator
- Nearby sighting(s) of same species
- GPS evidence of location
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